Sal Paolantonio: “The NFL think it’s going to lose in court”

From ESPN, Sal Paolantonio says the NFL doesn’t know what to do with Deflategate as well as explains why Mike McCoy is on the clock.

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  8. David W Mourray

    I find it disheartening that that the NFL can’t enforce this minor suspension of Tom Brady. There are some people that don’t consider what Tom Brady did as a serious offence. Trying to gain a competitive advantage by braking the rules like this should get a year suspension for a first time offence and a life time band for a second. This is a major offence and can not be tolerated.

  9. mikeyboss

    There is ZERO DEFINITIVE PROOF. Zilch. Nada. Moreover, Brady has shown not having control over his footballs gives him no disadvantage, as evidenced by Brady throwing more TDs, passing yds, and completions ON THE ROAD, while having a nearly identical 63% completion percentage for both home and road games. If statistics were heavily slanted (home vs. away), then there might be evidence to show Brady plays better with footballs on the lower LEGAL end of the PSI spectrum.

    Brady also destroyed Indianapolis in the AFC Champ game, completing over 85% of passes USING INDY’S BALLS. Then he went on to carve up the NFL’s top-rated defense, while setting multiple Superbowl records (incl. most-ever completions, 37), under the heaviest scrutiny in both those games.

    Aaron Rodgers admitted he likes his footballs over the legal limit–but why no outcry?? Ravens’ Harbaugh was fined on multiple occasions for throwing out challenge flags to rest his defense–but no outcry there? Why? Because the Patriots and Brady have been BY FAR the most dominant franchise/QB combo in this millennium. And as the saying goes, SUCCESS BREEDS JEALOUSY. Plain and simple.

  10. Darel Boyer

    What is a major offense? Ted Wells couldn’t prove anything untoward even happened, much less that TB12 was involved in any plot or scandal.

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  13. Jason Hansen Sr.

    I can never have an honest and intelligent debate with a non Patriots fan about the Patriots’ “cheating” They have no clue what their talking about. It sounds good & makes them feel better about why their team isn’t as good, so they lash out irrationally. It’s like am ugly person trying to put down the good looking person to try to male themselves better

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  27. mmyett

    If he did anything, which is a big question mark still, is nothing more then an equipment violation. The fines and suspensions to both TB and the team are ridiculous and unprecedented, the NFL rules call for up to a $20,000 fine and there is no provision for suspension. Goodell is making things up as he goes along and is now cornered by his bad decisions but it won’t be him that pays, it will be Brady.

    The Patriots are no different then the Cowboys, Yankees, Lakers and Canadians in there primes, everyone loved to hate them. If it makes you feel better about your shitty team go ahead and bash away it doesn’t change the fact we are the SB champs. It’s good to be the king.

  28. Lucas Rohr

    A major offence, that before the Patriots was always fined with 15 000 to 20 000 dollar…

  29. David W Mourray

    The NFL doesn’t need proof that he let air out of the balls. A person with even average intelligence can know that Tom Brady at the very least had knowledge that the ball were being deflated. And, not only for the championship game, but that it was an on going behavior for many games!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  30. David W Mourray

    The standard of proof is that he simply had knowledge that the balls were being deflated. The NFL isn’t required to have definitive proof mikey.

  31. David W Mourray

    There is proof. The footballs were found to be under inflated!!! There isn’t any argument about that. There doesn’t have to be an eye witness or a video that shows Tom Brady letting air out of the footballs. All the NFL has to show, is that Tom Brady was
    “At least Generally Aware”
    that the balls were deflated. If you honestly think that the best Quaterback in the history of football didn’t have a
    “More Probable That Not”
    knowledge that the footballs were under-inflated, there isn’t any more that can be said to you. Furthermore, he is also guilty of and was aware of, and took steps to support, actions of team employees to deflate game footballs below appropriate levels. Tom Brady’s deliberate destruction of potentially revant evdence went beyond mere failure to cooperate in the investigation. This is not a Court of Law where a person has rights that can be protected or need to be protected. This was an investigation by the NFL that because of his membership in the NFL he is required to fully comply with the investigation. End of Story.

  32. David W Mourray

    Know Topo, I’m not an idiot. Try to answer my argument of what Tom Brady is involved in.
    There is proof. The footballs were found to be under inflated!!! There isn’t any argument about that. There doesn’t have to be an eye witness or a video that shows Tom Brady letting air out of the footballs. All the NFL has to show, is that Tom Brady was “At least Generally Aware”
    that the balls were deflated. If you honestly think that the best Quaterback in the history of football didn’t have a
    “More Probable That Not”
    knowledge that the footballs were under-inflated, there isn’t any more that can be said to you. Furthermore, he is also guilty of and was aware of, and took steps to support, actions of team employees to deflate game footballs below appropriate levels. Tom Brady’s deliberate destruction of potentially relevant evidence went beyond mere failure to cooperate in the investigation. This is not a Court of Law where a person has rights that can be protected or need to be protected. This was an investigation by the NFL that because of his membership in the NFL he is required to fully comply with the investigation. End of Story.

  33. mikeyboss

    Psst halfwit, Brady has always said he likes his footballs on the low end, or at 12.5 PSI. The “damaging” texts from his ball boys came up after the Jets game, when the footballs were found to be at 16 PSI. But don’t worry, Brady won that game, much like he kicked ass using Indy’s footballs (85% completions), or set multiple records in carving up Seattle’s D in the Superbowl, using heavily-scrutinized footballs.

    BTW, and WHEN Brady wins in court, keep saying the NFL isn’t required to have definitive proof LOLOL

  34. mikeyboss

    Gee, I wonder why you didn’t mention that Indy’s balls were also found to be underinflated?? *CRICKET SOUNDS*

    But, you’re right about one point: Brady is the GOAT.

  35. Barry Inciong

    Well in that case (and with that many exclamation marks), I guess we don’t need proof anymore. I guess someone should let Tom Brady and Robert Kraft know so that they don’t waste their time in court, cause guys with the kind of success they have each had are often wasting their time on futile efforts.

  36. Jack Jones

    After read RG’s denial of TB’s appeal … I can’t see how TB could convince anyone of his innocence. It pretty much lay’s out the what, when, who and for what. It clearly states that TB destroyed his cell phone and sim cards (on the day) he was to meet with Mr. Wells. This will be about money from this point forward. Who is willing to spend the most. The NFL already has Kraft’s million dollars to work with. The NFLPA will have to keep up pace with that spending.

  37. Jack Jones

    I feel the same way about the Pats fans. They all want to find out what (your) team is and trash talk (your) team when that’s not the issue here. Rather than defend their teams position.

    Personally: I do not think it was wise for Mr. Brady to have destroyed his cell phone and sim cards (on the day he was to meet with Wells).

    Even if he refused to turn it over that would have lent more credibility to him. But he went beyond that and destroyed them ..

    If you are not guilty you just don’t do that.

  38. Jack Jones

    Not only that .. but that he destroyed evidence .. he destroyed his cell phone and sim cards (on the day) he was to meet with Wells. It is about the (fact) that his conduct in this matter was in (fact) detrimental to the league. I do not see how he can defend that it was not ..

  39. Jack Jones

    I’m guessing you can provide proof of that correct? Otherwise you are full of shit. Even if you had a point .. the why would the refs pull (only) the Pats balls? BTW I’ll be waiting to see what you come up with as far as proof.

  40. psage

    On to the injunction when your boyfriend roger loses in court again i will be the first to say i told you so

  41. psage

    Jack jones needs to release his mouth from goodells butt because his lips are literally turning blue from kissing it so much

  42. mikeyboss

    I haven’t diverted anything. The issue at hand is if the NFL has DEFINITIVE PROOF, and they don’t.

  43. mikeyboss

    You obviously have no clue what you’re talking about. Brady wasn’t required to hand over his phone, and he chose not to (most people wouldn’t either), from the get-go. Moreover, during the appeal process, Brady offered Goodell ALL PHONE RECORDS, including a SPREADSHEET OF ALL CONTACTS AND EMAILS.

    Goodell’s response? ‘That would be impractical.’ So Goodell thinks it’s ‘practical’ to spend millions of dollars over multiple months to produce a VERY half-assed Wells Report, but can’t put resources to look into phone records Brady provided?? Hmmmm.

    “Deflategate” has always been about an overreaction by an embattled commissioner who had BADLY screwed up the Ray Rice, Adrian Peterson situations, and Goodell knew by going after BY FAR the most dominant franchise (New England) of this millennium on a BS charge, he could get back in the good graces of rabidly jealous non-Patriot fan bases and owners.

    But don’t worry, WHEN Goodell loses in court, that’ll be the end of this farce.

  44. tslateone

    LOL! Okay stud, cite the scientific study that determines fluctuations in football air pressure during football games in a variety of conditions and the following statistical analysis.

    Oh, can’t find one, you mean citing the “Ideal Gas Law” doesn’t impress enough people to back off? Right, so let’s deal with this now, you don’t know science, the Patriots don’t know science, there is no study in existence and you have no clue why the balls were deflated and nor do Boston based “scientists”.

    The phone, oh the phone. Yup, Brady pulled a Hillary Clinton alright. I gave you all the records, “trust me”. Now I destroyed my server/phone because I gave you all the records, “trust me”.

    If Brady had worked with the NFL to find a 3rd party arbitrator to review all of Brady’s phone records with Brady or his lawyer present and they were then handed to the arbitrator who agreed and verified the claim that these indeed were all the phone records because he actually LOOKED and REVIEWED the records on the phone in his physical presence, then the NFL would have accepted them.

    Instead, Brady used the Hillary rule. Sorry stud, doesn’t work that way. He just got 95% of the public to not believe him, get over it.

    An honest intelligent debate includes being honest and intelligent yourself, go figure. I personally when pointing out the facts to Patriots fans like yourself get nothing but derision, ad hominem comments and vulgarity, touché!

  45. tslateone

    Nice try but trying to diffuse the air pressure issue doesn’t work.
    Cite the scientific study that determines fluctuations in football air pressure during football games in a variety of conditions and the following statistical analysis.

    Oh, can’t find one, you mean citing the “Ideal Gas Law” doesn’t impress enough people to back off? Right, so let’s deal with this, you don’t know science, the Patriots don’t know science, there is no study in existence and you have no clue why the balls were deflated and nor do Boston based “scientists”.

    The phone, oh the phone. Yup, Brady pulled a Hillary Clinton alright. I gave you all the records, “trust me”. Now I destroyed my server/phone because I gave you all the records, “trust me”.

    If Brady had worked with the NFL to find a 3rd party arbitrator to review all of Brady’s phone records with Brady or his lawyer present and they were then handed to the arbitrator who agreed and verified the claim that these indeed were all the phone records because he actually LOOKED and REVIEWED the records on the phone in his physical presence, then the NFL would have accepted them.

    Instead, Brady used the Hillary rule. Doesn’t work that way. He just got 95% of the public to not believe him, you lose, the Patriots lose and biggest multi-billionaire cry-baby of them all, loses. Get over it.
    The only half-wit is you mikeyloser, when the NFL penalties, fines and suspensions are upheld in court. Go back to sleep.

  46. mikeyboss

    PLENTY of studies and empirical evidence that exists showing atmospheric conditions affect a football. Maybe an MIT professor also doesn’t know what he’s talking about?

    A grad student from Carnegie Mellon performed just such an experiment, and “shockingly” there was a noticeable loss of PSI pressure FROM A CHANGE IN ATMOSPHERIC CONDITIONS (see NY Times link below)

    http://www.nytimes.com/2015/01/30/sports/football/deflation-experiments-show-patriots-may-have-science-on-their-side-after-all.html?_r=0

    Regarding cell phone AND email records, during the appeal, Brady offered records of ALL CONTACTS, BY WAY OF SPREADSHEET. Goodell’s response? ‘That would be impractical’ (IMPRACTICAL being the exact word Goodell used). So, AGAIN you’re lying out of your ass, as Goodell (and his $44 mil salary) apparently couldn’t be bothered to assign a couple of interns to scour through the aforementioned cell phone AND email contacts?? Hmmm.

    Sorry, stupid, but you’re 0-2. But, hey, let’s talk about the REAL reason why you are against Brady and the Patriots: the Pats are BY FAR the most dominant team in this millennium, and Brady is the GOAT. And like the saying goes, SUCCESS BREEDS JEALOUSY (hint hint). Look at the bright side: the Patriots surely can’t continue to forever bitch-slap your team again and again, right? 😉

  47. mikeyboss

    Yes, I was in tremendous “agony” watching the Pats win that thrilling Superbowl, while Brady set YET MORE passing records in the Superbowl, including most-ever completions (37). Oh that was unbearable “agony” there! LOLOL

    Btw, under TREMENDOUS scrutiny, how did Brady carve up Seattle’s top-rated defense, set multiple records doing it? Or how did Brady bitch-slap Indy USING INDY’S BALLS (and completing over 85% of his passes), during the AFC Champ game?? *CUE CRICKET SOUNDS*

  48. mikeyboss

    What’s gonna be REAL funny to read/watch is WHEN Brady bitch-slaps Goodell in court, you’re going to see all the jealous haters (because this is ALL about jealousy and success envy) foaming from the mouth, not changing their collective tune.

    Like the saying goes, SUCCESS BREEDS JEALOUSY.

  49. tslateone

    “Plenty”, “there’s an article”, code for clueless. There are no “studies” at all. Cite a published peer reviewed study or stop talking gibberish.

    It would take a 40 degree differential to achieve a 2 PSI drop in a football in the timeframe from inflation to measurements during the AFC game. This is a scientific fact. Don’t go referencing articles you’ve never read or pretend you know anything about the ideal gas law. There was not 40 degree differential in that game from inflation to measurements, nor did the Colts experience anything similar.

    To be clear, that’s a 40 degree drop meaning the Patriots balls would have to be inflated under at least 90 degrees and have stayed that way for quite some time. Why would anyone do that, it’s a ridiculous assumption. There was not enough of a drop in temperature to account for the PSI differential nor was that same differential noted in the Colts balls.

    Maybe you should actually talk to a scientist instead of making wild claims about something you know nothing about.

    Spreadsheets and contacts? Brady should have offered the phone or sought 3rd party arbitration, he did neither. Instead his solution was to destroy the phone(fill in Patriots excuse here). How do contacts matter when voice, text and email are the content necessary to prove Brady’s claims, just delusional.

    The real reason you talk gibberish is because the facts don’t back your flawed hypothesis and wild accusations and attacking everyone is all that is left.

    When you have real factual evidence that backs your theory debate, instead you sound like a cornered screeching hyena with no where to go.

  50. mikeyboss

    This coming from a babbling, inept troll who claims that academic experts, SCIENTISTS (see the mention of the MIT scientist in the article, etc.) and studies I provided to back up the Patriots’ claims of atmospheric effects on footballs aren’t worth anything, YET YOU CAN’T PROVIDE SQUAT LOL.

    Regarding Brady’s phone, WELLS HIMSELF SAID BRADY DIDN’T HAVE TO PROVIDE HIS PHONE, dumbass. Only Brady’s records are what the NFL required. Therefore, Brady could have held a public event shooting his phone out of a cannon, and it would have been a moot point. Get it now, mook?

    Moreover, Brady couldn’t give his phone records to a 3rd party arbitrator–much like Brady couldn’t get a 3rd party arbitrator to hear his appeal, due to current CBA–yet when Brady did comply and offered up 9900+ texts, along with all his email contacts, Goodell AGAIN showed how disingenuous he is by saying it would be ‘impractical’ (actual word Goodell used).

    And speaking of MORE facts to back Brady not needing “doctored” footballs, when the NFL’s sting put forth the Colts’ footballs for Brady to use in the 2nd half, Brady connected for over 85% of passes, playing even better in the 2nd half LOL.

    Oh, then under TREMENDOUS security and scrutiny in the Superbowl, Brady carved up the league’s top-rated defense, while setting multiple SB records (incl. most-ever completions, at 37). Gee, I wonder how Brady could excel SO well then, as well?? (Guessing those cricket sounds are the same sounds you’ll have when not being able to explain Brady’s performance in the AFC Champ game, as well ;))

    Seriously, you come across like a little child with a jealousy-induced rage. Your jealousy is clouding your rationale, and prevents you speaking in an OBJECTIVE, cogent manner. Next time, try KNOWING THE FACTS BEFORE SPEWING/TYPING UTTER BS.

  51. tslateone

    Fact: You have not cited one study, name the “study”. If you could name it you would, cite the study not your endless rhetoric. Fact, you can’t cite the study because it’s non-existent.

    Fact: Ideal Gas Law states in order to achieve a 2 PSI drop in the AFC game conditions takes a 40 degree temperature drop.
    Disprove it.

    Fact: A Boston college professor addresses the Ideal Gas Law:
    As Boston College physics professor Michael Naughton noted, a 20-degree temperature change could account for a one PSI decrease in air pressure. But for the ball to decrease naturally by two PSI, it would have to undergo a temperature change of 40 degrees.

    Unless you’re an idiot(a likely possibility) the facts as repeated by a “scientist” are the temperature never dropped below 48.9 degrees that night so in order to induce a 2 PSI drop the balls would have to be inflated in a 90 degree room. Go look in the mirror for the inept babbling troll.

    Fact: Brady never offered his full phone content in a verifiable or any manner. Sending 9900 texts(again more mikey girl gibberish) is meaningless when the content required is probably 50 texts or less, again all require verification by a independent third party. 3rd party arbitration is not “give unverified texts” and phone content to the arbitrator it’s the arbitrator reviewing the phone and selecting the appropriate content, got it? The CBA is irrelevant in this regard and another nonsense comment.

    Fact: Brady’s agent offered contacts and then told the NFL to track everything down.
    This amounts to diffusion when all the content necessary was on the phone. You keep trying to make hay of a tactic to avoid giving up the actual phone messages. Nowhere in any document did Brady offer his actual phone content, that’s a simple fact. Further people now can obtain phone content going back years it’s a Brady lie stating it is not possible. He failed to even offer the content he had.

    You cannot refute any of the 5 facts above, you claim to have “Studies” yet can’t name one, you claim the PSI dropped by temperature but cannot refute the Ideal Gas Law needs a 40 degree drop which never occurred that night, you claim you have a “scientists” and “professors” but in fact a physics professor from Boston no less substantiates the 40 degree drop is required, you claim that Brady offered his “contacts” but cannot show he offered his phone content anywhere anytime instead trying to force the NFL on a witch hunt.

    There are 5 facts you have yet to disprove one so babble on mikey girl.

    Further your delusional fantasy regarding the Patriots domination shows your weak grasp of facts and the ability to offer a coherent argument. The Patriots are 6th with a 4-4 SB record, far behind Steelers at number 1. A dynasty is not 6th place in SB wins, so the delusion that everyone hates the Patriots because of their dominance is laughable. Are those the cricket sounds you babble about when you find out you’re a mere 6th place on the SB list and clearly not dominant by any stretch of the imagination.

    Character assassination is all you have, no facts, a limited grasp of the English language, clearly no writing skills. Weak people always resort to character assassination and yelling. Apparently you can’t count because you mikey girl are the one in a rage with more posts than anyone trying to bludgeon everyone with stupidity.

  52. mikeyboss

    LOL@your sheer idiocy. Your first “fact” is from a BC professor who says the PSI drop COULD (as in possibly) drop 2 PSI. Moreover, said BC professor NEVER DID AN ACTUAL STUDY, halfwit.

    As I mentioned before, I’ll take the aforementioned (sorry for the “big” word, little boy) ACTUAL STUDY that was performed by the Carnegie Mellon grad student, and statistical evidence that was backed up by a WELL-regarded MIT professor.

    What study do you have? STILL NOTHING, Inept One. Not a single link to an alleged study to refute the atmospheric PSI drop LOL. Yet when I provided AN ACTUAL LINK SHOWING A STUDY THAT WAS PERFORMED, you want to (again) show HOW disingenuous (again, sorry for the “big” word, little boy) by saying I provided no study, when CLEARLY I did in one of my previous posts to you. I wonder why you not only STILL can’t provide any study to refute the aforementioned CM study, but then AGAIN lied about my not providing said study?? *CRICKET SOUNDS*

    Regarding Brady’s 9900+ texts, not only did he give up literally thousands of texts that COULD BE investigated, but all cell phone texts could EASILY be recoverable via Google (Tech30), Facebook (Tech30), or any number of cloud text messaging services. Yet Goodell spends $3 mil on a half-assed Wells Report, but can’t put some time in to gather up texts using readily-available technology to do so?? Hmmmm. Doesn’t pass the BS test (much like the bogus “11 out of 12 footballs” claim Goodell’s office made to Mortensen, initially).

    So, when you wonder why I attack your “character” (or lack thereof, in your case), it’s because YOU CAN’T PROVIDE ANY LINKS TO BACK UP YOUR BS. Moreover, why is it you fail to address/explain how it is that Brady PLAYED EVEN BETTER using FULLY-INFLATED (Indy’s) FOOTBALLS in the 2nd half of the AFC Champ game?? Or how Brady used FULLY-INFLATED FOOTBALLS and carved up Seattle’s D, while setting multiple SB records, incl. most-ever completions?? Or how Brady’s completion % is almost identical for home & away games, despite not having his ball boys for away games?

    I’ll tell your knuckle-dragging, troglodyte self why: because you’re JEALOUS. Jealousy can be a VERY powerful emotion, and it’s evident when you purposely won’t address all the aforementioned statistics that show Brady excels, regardless of his ball boys being with him (at home games) or not.

    Lastly, as apparently reading comprehension isn’t your strong suit, I said the Pats are BY FAR the most dominant franchise OF THIS MILLENNIUM, both in terms of overall W-L, and in terms of Superbowls won. Let me guess, your stupid ass doesn’t know what MILLENNIUM means either, eh? LOLOL.

    P.S. If you’re even dumber than you appear, and you want to show that you’re also a masochist (much like the beatings the Pats give your team, which I’m sure will remain nameless), be sure to respond back, little boy 😉